Lost: Black And Tan Norfolk Terrier Male In South West (PL26)

  • Dog ID 131629
  • Status Lost
  • Registered 09 Jul 2018
  • Name CHARLIE
  • Gender & Breed Male Norfolk Terrier (Neutered)
  • Age Older Adult
  • Colour Black and Tan
  • Marks & Scars
  • Tagged Yes
  • Microchipped Yes
  • Tattooed Unknown
  • Date Lost 08 Jul 2018
  • Where Lost Trenarren, near St Austell, Cornwall On coast path near Ropehaven Last known location http://maps.google.com/?q=loc:50.306427,-4.758484 Charlie was wearing a GPS collar which reported the last
  • Lost In Region South West
  • Lost In Post Area PL26
  • Date Reunited
  • Other Info Missing with Poppy (DL ref' 131630) Owners were on holiday & had to leave. Think they may be stuck down a hole.
  • Phone 1 07713243029
  • Phone 2 07788548363
  • Listed By Guy and Jane
  • Views 2084
  • Alerts Sent 88
  • CHARLIEPoster Image
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Guy and Jane
Thanks. I think you're right. He called saturday and I gave him a blasting before he put the phone down. As much as I hold him beneath contempt, I dont think he's an idiot either. He's unlikely to call me again. There's a couple in my village who also lost their two terriers a couple of weeks before us. They too got a call from someone claiming to have their dogs, so sadly, it does seem that this might be a fairly regular occurrence for people in our situation.
Skywalker99
witheld numbers can be traced. I would report him to the police, you will not the first or last person he has called, other people may not be as circumspect as you and in their agony to find their missing pet give the conman money.
Guy and Jane
Thanks. He was on the phone three times yesterday. In a way I was glad as I had the opportunity to ask questions that has confirmed that it was a con. What he doesnt realise are the facts I left OUT of the Gumtree advert.
DogLostSharon - Social Media Team
Sadly it seems to be happening quite often, people trying to exploit those who are searching for their dogs. Sorry you had to go through that xx
Guy and Jane
Just I suppose to complete the record. We have placed adverts on Gumtree and Craigslist for this with a substantial reward attached for safe return. I got a call from a eastern European man claiming to have the dogs last friday. Withheld number and wouldn't give name. Asked for photos, wouldn't send them (because they have a hidden IP address in them). Challenged me to ask about their markings but I insisted on photos. Then he hung up. Wanted £2500. Of course its likely, 99% to be a scam (after all they were lost, not stolen so no reason to be anonymous). I was well prepared for something like that to happen but my thinking was not all people are dog lovers and it might be enough to encourage someone if they knew something. That said, I was surprisingly annoyed at the attempted rip-off - the depths some people will go.
DogLostSharon - Social Media Team
So sorry it's not him Guy and Jane xx
Guy and Jane
Thanks. Looks so much like him, my heart stopped. Sadly though its not, we checked the microchip and apparently he's staffie size as well. many thanks though.
DogLostSharon - Social Media Team
Please check this found dog https://www.facebook.com/hydroatgrove/posts/2000363470015604
Annamaria
I’m so sorry, I share these dogs every day hoping for a miracle x I shall continue to share and hope to God somehow they are found xxx
nalamissing
How awful for you, please don't blame yourselves for what happened, I am sure you did everything you could. It will take time but you will eventually remember them for the joy they brought to your lives. I hope you can find some more dogs to love in the future.I am perplexed by the RSPCA.
Skywalker99
so very, very sorry.
Guy and Jane
To answer your question Trish, yes they were known to go down burrows. We didnt realise there were badger setts within 200m of the place we were staying. We now know that the area we were in was prime territory for them. I cannot help but feel haunted by the thought that I, as their co-owner, didn't do enough to save them. We put our trust in the local RSPCA individual who simply wouldn't action the fire brigade, despite me pleading with him to do something. The more rational part of me thinks that given the topography of the area, without professional help, there was nothing I could do. But I am bitter and angry with the local RSPCA who were downright obstructive.All I can ask you lovely people is to keep an eye out for them, which I know you'll do. But it seems hopeless I know.
TrishW
Was the ‘hoaxer’ ever followed up? Could they have your dog?
TrishW
Were they known for entering badger setts?
Guy and Jane
Please do keep an eye out here. I know it’s basically impossible but a small hope is worth it. Guy
Annamaria
I’m so so sorry. I can’t get these dogs out of my mind. Going on holiday Monday with dogs and I feel sad. I will keep sharing as there is always hope they may have got away. Do they have a Facebook page? Annamaria xx
Alex
To the owners-So sorry for what's happened. When I went to look for them with one of my dogs there wasn't any sign nor sound. We walk there often and shall for evermore think of Charlie and Poppy when there...dear of them.
Guy and Jane
Dear all, Can I please just add and amplify Max's expression of gratitude and thanks to you all for all the work you have put in for us. The kindness of strangers is truly amazing. Jane and I made the awful decision to accept the overwhelmingly likely outcome based on the location of the last GPS signal, their Terrier instincts and the absence of anything further from it. Needless to say, we are speechless with grief and cannot even begin to imagine life without our boy Charlie, cheeky chappie, and his good girl sister, Poppy. They were two of the funniest, joyous and loving little personalities we have had in our life and their absence is felt in the deepest parts of our souls. Thanks again.
DogLostMax - Area Coordinator, Cornwall
After speaking with a Badger rescue chap, it is felt that if the dogs went down the sett they would almost certainly have been killed by the badgers. The owners have also spoken to him & feel this is certainly the most likely outcome. Badgers would currently have cubs & would kill anything that went into the sett. The webpage will be left open in the hope that they may be found. The owners are very grateful & wish to thank everyone for their efforts. They are heartbroken. Please respect their decision.
DogLostMax - Area Coordinator, Cornwall
It seems due to the presence of badger setts, the fire brigade are not allowed to do any work which may disturb them, as it is illegal. I have also spoken to a local Badger rescue coordinator, who will assist owner, if another GPS signal can be obtained, or any evidence they may still be alive. It is highly unlikely ( & owner is aware of this) that the dogs will be alive, if they are down a sett, due to cubs being around & the possibility they have been killed by the parent badgers. However, efforts will still be made to try to find the dogs, on the off chance they are not down a sett/other hole.
DogLostMax - Area Coordinator, Cornwall
I have been in touch with fire brigade. They are sending a crew to have a look. They may have a problem if it is badger sett/mining are, but will cross that bridge when they have assessed it. They have my contact number. Tracy Elliot, I have hopefully sent you a message on Fb.
Guy and Jane
Hi Everyone, given that both dogs have metal tags on them, a metal detector might be of some use?
Guy and Jane
Hi everyone, another suggestion that has been made to me is to use a borescope/videoscope that they use for checking sewers and drains. Does anyone know any one that might have this? Or a company that we might be able to use that would come out to the location? Obviously I would pay for the work.
Guy and Jane
Hi everyone, owner here. As I say below, Charlie had a GPS collar on him and the last reported coordinates (stick this into google maps) is:
50.306427,-4.758484

There are burrows there and given that the GPS collar had plenty of juice in it at the time, I am pretty sure they went down one of the burrows there and havent come out. I am desperate to get the thermal imaging camera on the area but have to go through the RSPCA to get the fire brigade out, and the RSPCA are being obstructive, please can someone help! If someone other than the fire brigade has such a camera, please help. I am going to come down tomorrow with shovels and am going to dig the place out, even if it kills me. thanks GuyLast edited: 2018-07-11 13:06:54 by Guy and Jane
Alex
I've just put a load of posters up near where they disappeared and had a a look round and called for them. Sadly no sign of them. Also, I spoke to a chap in a tractor who knows about them and is kindly going to look this evening, he knows the area very well so this will be very helpful. I'm going to walk back that way shortly to search and call out again. Last edited: 2018-07-10 14:49:19 by Alex
DogLostMax - Area Coordinator, Cornwall
Thank you Tracy Elliot, that is very kind of you.
We have lots of support from wonderful people, so hopefully they will be located soon.
tracyelliott
I'm the local mine rescue, please give me a shout if you think I'm needed, thanks Tracy Elliott
Alex
Just to let the owners know that the local farm are aware and they and local folk are keeping an eye open and there seem to be 3 different people going to have a look.
Alex
Hi.I walk here regularly. I am going this afternoon..Am taking posters. Were they lost in the wooded area just after the carpark (you turn left after carpark) or were they lost on the more open coast path area after the wooded bit?Last edited: 2018-07-10 08:39:11 by Alex
Guy and Jane
Am trying to get fire brigade to the last known location with heat seeking cameras. They though won’t act unless auctioned by RSPCA. Have contacted them, and waiting to hear back if they will - very frustrating!
Guy and Jane
Charlie was wearing a GPS collar at the time, last reported location at 4 PM Sunday was here: http://maps.google.com/?q=loc:50.306427,-4.758484

It looks like it’s close to a burrow set but we don’t know the area well or what we can do about this! Please any suggestions or help. Thanks. Guy
DogLostGeoffA - Area Volunteer, Cornwall
Posters emailed to https://www.mevagisseyboattrips.co.uk/ with request to share / display.
Sue - onestopalldogs
Shared to @onestopalldogsLost Facebook and Twitter
DogLostGeoffA - Area Volunteer, Cornwall
Guy and Jane - from my share to a Mevagissey group: "Have they had a boatman check the cliffs, in case they’ve gone over?"
DogLostGeoffA - Area Volunteer, Cornwall
Poster shared to Ship Inn Pentewan FB page with request to print for staff & customers to see (on SW Coast Path).
Also added to Mevagissey News and Mevagissey Hub FB pages as visitor post with request to share.Last edited: 2018-07-09 20:59:47 by GeoffA - Area Volunteer, Cornwall
DogLostMax - Area Coordinator, Cornwall
Have emailed general advice to owners, following a phone call.
will share to local fb groups. Have added posters & link to DogLost Cornwall fb page. Will see if any local members are able to put posters up in area.
Owners advised re Dog Warden & Microchip company.
DogLostSarah - Twitter Co-ordinator & Area Co-ordinator, Cambridgeshire
Details shared to DogLost.co.uk Facebook Group & Tweeted @DogLostUK x
https://twitter.com/DoglostUK/status/1016392322513326080
DogLostJayne - Administrator, Head Office
Alerts sent to helpers in PL24,25,26.
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